ABS Delete Kits...WTF?

"Brewman15" (brewman15) 01/15/2014 at 09:41 • Filed to: craigslist

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Ah, Chicago Craigslist. You never cease to amaze me. I've never heard of !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , but at least they come with a 'garrenty'.

Questions:

How exactly do some fancy brake lines disable the ABS on a car?

Why would you want to disable the ABS on a car?

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to just remove the ABS sensor or cut the wire?

offroadkarter > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 09:42

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#BecauseRacecar

They are advertised for civics and integras, does this shock you at all?

dinobot666 > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 09:45

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Just pull the fuse.

davedave1111 > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 09:50

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I don't know what that kit includes, but simply disabling the ABS by pulling a fuse or cutting a wire can be very dangerous because ABS-equipped cars are set up with unstable brake-bias configurations, and rely on the ABS to keep the resultant handling issues in check. Disabling the ABS will commonly lead to the rear wheels locking under only moderate braking.

Barbarian772 > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 10:00

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Why would anyone do this?

BECAUSE RACECAR...

Casper > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 10:09

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It is probably to correct pressure or bias that won't function when the ABS fuse is pulled or sensors removed. Some cars have much lower pressures or funky bias that are sorted out by the ABS system while it's working that would no longer work properly after: one example I can think of is having far too much rear brake pressure on some FWDs.

Of course, without really caring enough to go research them, it's a guess.

Edit: Just saw dave already answered you. Shouldn't have left my editor open to go get coffee ;)

TurboSloth > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 10:22

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ABS IS FOR PUSSIES. GOTTA MAKE MY CAR IN TO A RACECAR BRO. RACECARS DONT USE ABS.

Brewman15 > davedave1111 01/15/2014 at 10:34

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Hmm...Can't say I've heard of that before.

When I bought my Volvo, the ABS didn't work and the light was on. It turned out the ABS sensor, which was magnetic, had so many metal shavings built up on that the shavings were blocking the signal. A quick clean-up got the ABS working again, but I can't say I noticed a difference in braking performance. Then again, that is a 21 year old ABS system and is probably much different than modern ones.

Frank Grimes > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 10:35

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Maybe its for people who never travel on asphalt and only gravel and snow. Because I am not sure if it is still true but ABS stopping distances is greater on those surfaces.

Brewman15 > offroadkarter 01/15/2014 at 10:35

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Yeah, good point. These are about as dumb as the stupid tow hooks that everyone puts on their riced out cars around here that have never seen a track.

Brewman15 > dinobot666 01/15/2014 at 10:36

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Wow, didn't even think about that. That's a hell of a lot easier than pulling the sensors or cutting the wires.

RotaryLover > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 11:11

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On Volvo VN semi-trucks 2005 to 2009, if one of the ABS sensors doesn't work, the full ABS and the traction control stops working all together. It can go all the way to the point where it will disable/mess up automatic shifting on trucks and only allow manual shifting with the buttons on the shifter. Don't know how 2014 are so far since we don't have any ABS issues yet, but I think it could get worst.

Jedidiah > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 11:11

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Out of all the cars I've driven, ABS systems typically have worse pedal feel than brake systems that don't have ABS, especially on early systems. ABS seems intrusive, especially in snow, if you know you're doing. I've never worked on a car with ABS brakes, so I don't know why you would need a kit-removing the sensor or fuse sounds more cost effective

DoubleClutchingAutomatic > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 11:20

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I don't have ABS on my car period, so I'm set.

Brewman15 > RotaryLover 01/15/2014 at 11:26

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Good to know. Glad my cars are old enough to not have to worry about any of that.

RotaryLover > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 11:29

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Indeed. There's so much electronics these days that it creates new stupid problems. Gotta love older cars and trucks!

RotaryLover > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 11:29

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Indeed. There's so much electronics these days that it creates new stupid problems. Gotta love older cars and trucks!

rabidpenguin > davedave1111 01/15/2014 at 12:37

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It looks like to me that the kit includes lines that will bypass the controller for the ABS, where all the brake lines feed into after the master cylinder. It's a dumb idea for a street car and I wouldn't buy brake line kits from a craigslist ad.

But of course, to each his own.

505Turbeaux > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 15:21

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Well my car has the easy way to do this. Also the easy way to lock up the diff...

davedave1111 > Brewman15 01/15/2014 at 18:29

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On an old Volvo system, maybe it wasn't set up that way. Possibly because it's before they'd started fully exploiting ABS, or maybe just because they're Volvo. Or maybe they did do it, and you just didn't encounter the problem. From what I understand, everything would feel completely normal right up until you brake hard and the back wheels lock before the fronts.

And you're not alone in not having heard of it. I certainly hadn't back when I had a car with malfunctioning ABS - I assumed that I could just cadence brake and be fine - and lots of people here hadn't heard before I started banging on about it, but it does seem to be a real thing.

davedave1111 > RotaryLover 01/15/2014 at 18:31

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There's so much electronics these days that it creates new stupid problems.

Ironically, that was a double post :)

GeorgeyBoy > Frank Grimes 01/15/2014 at 18:31

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Don't think this would be the reason for them, although I can back up that claim. I can stop my non abs car much faster than my abs equipped car that has better tires.

mikeluscher159 > Brewman15 01/23/2014 at 06:07

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mikeluscher159 > Brewman15 01/23/2014 at 06:07

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LONGLIVEDSMS > Brewman15 08/12/2015 at 18:36

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If I may be of any assistance here, yes it would be “cheaper” to just pull a fuse or cut a wire. on the other hand, for some people that want to make their car look nicer under the hood they opt for a abs delete kit and custom route the lines nice and tidy hidden behind the engine. they are trying to achieve the look of a clean (“tucked”) engine bay usually this is done with a wire tuck were people extend the wires to hide them in the fender and all kinds of places, relocate the fuse boxes and battery elsewhere so that the only thing in the bay relatively are the engine, trans, master cylinders, and brake booster if equipped . and then yes like some people said “BECAUSE RACECAR” LOL It’s all part of trends.